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Post by revupminster on Jul 25, 2012 8:24:48 GMT
In todays' Newham Recorder there is an Olympic supplement with a new airiel photograph show the work on the new alignment of the DLR. It looks like double track all the way to stratford with Pudding Mill Lane station moved approx 20 yards south. I would then think the slow westbound Anglia line would occupy the old station position and the crossrail tracks come up between the slow lines.
Ps. Google earth has been updated but still looks 6 months out of date.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 23, 2012 13:16:09 GMT
I don't think they want District Line, and maybe H&C passengers to change at Mile End and overload the central line but go on to West Ham and trudge up the sewer bank, aka Northern Outfall Sewer, aka Greenaway.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 19, 2012 17:53:28 GMT
It is almost imposible for a driver to pass through a packed tube train when in a tunnel and is the reason emergency handles no longer stop a train as they did in the "Old Days" but alert the driver to get to the next station and seek out the problem. Detrainments in tunnels don't happen until enough staff are assembled usually from stations. Will the passengers be more assured from a voice at the front of the train or coming from a control centre.
C2C trains that have one driver often in charge of twelve coaches joined in three units with no interconnection but not many people at the back of the train think about getting help from a driver who would have to get out on to the track to reach the back of the train.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 19, 2012 15:54:07 GMT
Signalling fo NoPo would not be that complicated. after all what is signaling and the various safety devices for. They are there to overcome human error. ie long overlaps, wrong side door enable, terminal protection, dead mans handle, etc. The DLR has done all this and works.
as post above I can see it on Sub surface lines initially west of Earls Court and east of Barking.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 18, 2012 14:35:41 GMT
Most model railway shows have an underground layout on show, sometime two. Some are very detailed with correct signalling and cable runs. A very impressive exhibit was at Acton Depot a few years ago featuring the main line and tube around Harrow in N guage. In Essex the model railway season soon gets into full swing starting in Shenfield and finishing in Shoeburyness with shows in Romford (2), Chelmsford, and Rainham. Your forgetting Basildon, only last week (7/8 July). I never see saw it advertised or i would have gone.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 18, 2012 10:10:52 GMT
Most model railway shows have an underground layout on show, sometime two. Some are very detailed with correct signalling and cable runs. A very impressive exhibit was at Acton Depot a few years ago featuring the main line and tube around Harrow in N guage. In Essex the model railway season soon gets into full swing starting in Shenfield and finishing in Shoeburyness with shows in Romford (2), Chelmsford, and Rainham.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 17, 2012 10:06:25 GMT
This lack of electrification of the line, Is it anything to do with weight restrictions on the viaducts and bridges? I don't think I have seen a freight train on the line even though there is capacity for them and the signalling is controlled from Upminster I believe.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 13, 2012 8:00:48 GMT
What does auto reversing at Brixton mean that the new Distance to Go signalling brings.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 12, 2012 15:27:53 GMT
Bi-Directional signalling between Seven Sisters and the depot and greater flexibilty reversing trains at Seven Sisters. There is a long term plan for trains to be sent unmanned to and from the depot.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 9, 2012 22:35:55 GMT
I still want to know if I put a volt meter on the positive rail, will it read at the momemt 630v and in future 750v
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Post by revupminster on Jul 8, 2012 13:59:23 GMT
How will the voltage rise affect the Picc trains where it runs with the District and Met
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Post by revupminster on Jul 8, 2012 7:15:09 GMT
Traction current has always been a mystery to me. I was taught it was 630v in the positive rail and the negative rail depended on how close a train was as to what was being discharged into the negative rail. Then later that it was 430v positive and 210v negative. And even more mysterious properties of the negative rail in earthing situations that I have forgotton about.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 4, 2012 22:35:24 GMT
Uxbridge to Tower Hill would complement Uxbridge to Aldgate although once the bay at Tower Hill becomes bi-directional and used to supplement westbound services it might be more difficult. In emergencies if Aldgate was full an S8 could go onto Tower Hill to reverse.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 3, 2012 22:12:07 GMT
Experiments with automatic gates occured much earlier at, i think, at stamford Brook because it was close to the signal department at Earls Court. These early gates and the Victoria Line were based on edmonson size tickets (Including season tickets). Liverpool St also had a early computerised ticket machine also edmonson sized. The first credit size type tickets were first shown by Westinghouse at a Technology college at Stepney Green next to the Mile End hospital..
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Post by revupminster on Jul 3, 2012 15:38:11 GMT
I read somewhere to have walkthrough trains on the tube lines would require articulated trains and smaller length carriages and the saving on bogies would not be that great on a ten car articulated train in the space of an eight car train.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 3, 2012 6:31:52 GMT
As above and I seem to remember on St Mary's curve even though double track only one train at a time could use it as the trains were two wide to pass each other.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 2, 2012 7:05:21 GMT
As Upminster station has 6 platforms (not including 1a), my guess is that it's named in the style of the 19th hole at golf courses. That's right. It is in the Upminster station buildings with an entrance on Station Road next to the cash machines and WH Smith. There have been a number of establishments there over the last few years. I can remember the wine bar on the WB platform at Sloane Square and the pub bar at Liverpool St EB Met.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 1, 2012 18:39:38 GMT
Speaking for Upminster again we have a golf course, Pitch and Put as well. Cricket to quite a good standard in the park Hornchurch FC actually play in Upminster.( i know it is the Hornchurch Stadium and slightly nearer to Upminster Bridge). West Ham's youth team have played there. We have a new fish and chip shop making three in all. We have about 150 shops including three undertakers (It's a good living here). Upminster station has a new bistro type establishment called Platform 7. Do the drivers pick up, I know not what, at Platform 7.
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Post by revupminster on Jul 1, 2012 16:22:17 GMT
I would like the Piccs withdrawn and terminated at Ealing Broadway leaving the Rayners Lane Branch to be taken over by the District S7's
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Post by revupminster on Jun 29, 2012 20:56:44 GMT
Upminster claim to fame is it's smock windmill and a tithe barn museum which are open many weekends in the summer. Roomes department store since its takeover went initially down market but now has gone the other way and it's men's clothes are really expensive and they have stopped selling train sets and scalextrics in the toy department. It's the only town where McDonalds closed after 20 years. It's a garden suburb almost completely devoid of any manufacturing. Developement is very restricted by being enclosed by the green belt and a powerful residents association wanting to keep it that way.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 28, 2012 15:33:52 GMT
I believe they will come up between the slow tracks (southern pair) west of Stratford use the interchange platforms with the central line and then use the slow lines to Shenfield which with the fly overs at Ilford become the northern tracks. East Anglia expresses should not be interfered with although there are connecting crossovers if needed such as for freight movements from Forest Gate junction.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 26, 2012 20:25:01 GMT
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Post by revupminster on Jun 22, 2012 21:15:39 GMT
C2C is also bi-directional as is the Liverpool St lines to Chelmsford. On a tour train a few years ago the signalman took delight in sending our train on every track including the Manor Park "freight loop" The signaling on the Met could be bidirectional but I believe the rail anchors for the current rails can only take line speed in one direction. I stand to be corrected on that.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 22, 2012 19:08:43 GMT
Elm Park
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Post by revupminster on Jun 21, 2012 21:27:43 GMT
The funniest was when we had someone walk up to the barrier without a ticket having got on at Hackney Wick, when asked why they hadn’t bought a ticket they claimed that there was no ticket machine which turned out to be true, someone had come along in the night with a forklift and nicked it. Those stories really sum up the chaotic state of that line as it was, you couldn't make it up. ;D I still remember the old APTIS ticket machine at Hampstead Heath that was from British Rail days, until about 7 years ago when someone came along overnight and set fire to it! Was it any different. Wapping had its safe stolen before the station was rebuilt in the 1960's. Bromley By Bow burnt down just before London Transport took it over in 1969. Hornchurch had it's safe pinched on the last day of its temporary home in a portacabin when UTS ticket office was built. Nothing is new.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 21, 2012 6:48:50 GMT
1993 with the "company plan" and the creation of multifunctional staff when stations became one man and that man worked the ticket office, to the platform if required, or down the track if required. If no staff the station would be left unmanned. If the station had points the station would be staffed by demanning an adjoining station. I do wish members wouldn't use the two words "Company Plan". Those two words gave me sleepless nights for weeks. I never thought I would master R&R applicable to a SS. After qualifying as a BC2 in 1989 which involved a written exam lasting nigh on 4hrs I don't think I could manage another. I was right it was I nightmare as I recall, however I passed (but didn't everybody). Don't think LUL could afford to loose many staff. But they did make the mistake of doing away with Chief Clerks. I still wonder how much that cost them. Anyway there was nothing like sitting in a booking office on a late turn on Christmas eve for 7.5 hrs and taking £12 hrs. Hardly surprising that LUL reduced the manning levels of Booking Offices. Pre 1993 the two most expensive grades on a station was the Chief Clerk and the Station Inspector and the "company plan" (sorry) was designed to get rid of them. Thhe SS1 supervisor then became the most expensive and led to the introduction of the Control Room Assistant doing the job of the SS1 in the control room. Today the most expensive grade is the driver and the attempt to bring in driverless trains similar to the DLR.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 20, 2012 21:52:46 GMT
1993 with the "company plan" and the creation of multifunctional staff when stations became one man and that man worked the ticket office, to the platform if required, or down the track if required. If no staff the station would be left unmanned. If the station had points the station would be staffed by demanning an adjoining station.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 12, 2012 8:28:07 GMT
The bay for the terminating H&C trains used to be a through platform until the rebuild of the station in the 60's. According to the Carto map the "proper" platform edge for through trains is numbered 1a but the extended platform covering the fromer throughroad is numbered 2. Are both sets of doors always opened? I too would always change at East Ham from a Barking bound train if I was going further. I always giggled at Plaistow when passengers from a terminating train found that all but one set of doors were beyond their position on the platform and started a mad dash along to find a door where they could actually board. They are normally opened both sides. It is a good way to get from the Overground platform to the C2C platform 4 without using the stairs or underpass.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 11, 2012 22:26:32 GMT
Often the drivers announce passengers going further to change trains at East Ham and wait on the same platform. It also happens at Monument, Blackfriars and other places where trains go into bay platforms. I can't see any reason why they would say that at East Ham. At the other locations, the bay platform is on the opposite side, which means that passengers would have to use stairs and a footbridge to get back to the correct platform, meaning that an announcement is needed so that passengers can avoid this. That is not the case at Barking though, hence my confusion! They announce at East Ham because if you are in the back of a bay train by the time you walk forward to the through platform a District line will come in and go out.
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Post by revupminster on Jun 11, 2012 21:25:18 GMT
Often the drivers announce passengers going further to change trains at East Ham and wait on the same platform. It also happens at Monument, Blackfriars and other places where trains go into bay platforms.
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