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Post by londoner on Apr 18, 2018 12:59:39 GMT
You may (or may not) be interested to learn that some dot matrices have been erected on both platforms at Rayners Lane but are as of yet, not operational.
I'm a bit surprised since I thought this would not happen until the SSR was resignalled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 18:01:31 GMT
Wow, great news, and at long last. Be interesting to see how long it is before they are commissioned (I am thinking of the time it took to get Eastcote - Hillingdon operational, some longer than others).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 19:22:20 GMT
The display on the westbound platform at South Harrow has not been displaying anything for the past 2 or 3 days. Wonder if its related.
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Post by mattdickinson on Apr 21, 2018 17:53:12 GMT
Rayners Lane has finally had DMIs installed, although they aren't active yet. Are there any other platforms left on the Met without DMIs?
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Post by A60stock on Apr 21, 2018 17:58:07 GMT
Croxley, chalfont, amersham, chesham?
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Apr 21, 2018 22:42:56 GMT
Are there any other lines without any DMIs?
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 22, 2018 7:50:35 GMT
There are still technically some stations or platforms that don't have DMI's but have Light Boxes as NTI's:
Barons Court (No destrciber for EB District), Stepney Green (EB), Upton Park and Upney (No describer for EB District)
This will need clarifying but I can't recall seeing any form NTI's on the platforms at Hornchurch, Upminster or the District platforms at Ealing Broadway.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 22, 2018 8:26:13 GMT
There are still technically some stations or platforms that don't have DMI's but have Light Boxes as NTI's: Barons Court (No destrciber for EB District), Stepney Green (EB), Upton Park and Upney (No describer for EB District) This will need clarifying but I can't recall seeing any form NTI's on the platforms at Hornchurch, Upminster or the District platforms at Ealing Broadway. Brackets have appeared for something at Ealing Broadway, we can only hope! Hornchurch has DMI WB Nothing at: Chiswick Park (both), Barons Court (EB), West Kensington (both), Upney (WB), Hornchurch (EB), Upminster. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 22, 2018 16:22:42 GMT
Threads merged.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 28, 2018 11:20:36 GMT
Brackets have appeared for something at Ealing Broadway, we can only hope! Hornchurch has DMI WB Nothing at: Chiswick Park (both), Barons Court (EB), West Kensington (both), Upney (WB), Hornchurch (EB), Upminster. someone must’ve been reading, as new (currently non-working) DMis have appeared at Chiswick Park (both) ! |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 28, 2018 11:33:37 GMT
Brackets have appeared for something at Ealing Broadway, we can only hope! Hornchurch has DMI WB Nothing at: Chiswick Park (both), Barons Court (EB), West Kensington (both), Hornchurch (EB), Upminster. someone must’ve been reading, as a new (currently non-working) DMi has appeared at Chiswick Park WB ! We all know this is the place to make things happen! |
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Post by Antje on Apr 28, 2018 12:37:41 GMT
I think the SSR Upgrade makes it possible. Maybe measuring the next train by seconds (like in Barcelona) could be possible with the new shiny signalling system thing.
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Apr 30, 2018 16:19:18 GMT
But imagine the pedants... "The board said that it would arrive in 10 seconds, but it arrived in 13 seconds instead! *rage* *rage*  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 16:54:31 GMT
South Harrow is bad for that. If it says 1 minute, it means 5 minutes normally. Hopefully this improves with the new signalling being installed on the met
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Apr 30, 2018 18:51:34 GMT
But imagine the pedants... "The board said that it would arrive in 10 seconds, but it arrived in 13 seconds instead! *rage* *rage* Pedantry? On here? Whatever next......... :-) |
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 30, 2018 20:30:15 GMT
Folowing on from @luacton , South Harrow's position at the 'edge of the realm' for Earls Court aswell as being a potential turn-back point often means that the WB platform erroneously displays EB departures even though there is no service disruption or terminating trains. The rouge DMI on the not so WB Platform at S.Harrow  |
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Post by Chris M on May 1, 2018 0:14:59 GMT
The rouge DMI on the not so WB Platform at S.Harrow Looks more like a noir DMI to me. |
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Post by londoner on May 6, 2018 23:06:40 GMT
The westbound DMI at Rayners Lane is operational. Have not checked eastbound yet.
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Post by goldenarrow on May 13, 2018 19:18:29 GMT
EB came into use this week, can only display Metropolitan or Piccadilly line for the EB, no destination, calling points, or service type (Semi-fast-All stations-Not In Service).
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Post by zbang on May 14, 2018 4:54:41 GMT
They're putting up amber panels??? How 1990s. (They look like the existing BART display panels.)
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Post by crusty54 on May 14, 2018 5:37:03 GMT
They're putting up amber panels??? How 1990s. (They look like the existing BART display panels.) Very true - white letter versions have been installed on some Southeastern stations. So much clearer. Some colour blind people are unable to see the amber versions. No enough colour contrast. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 11:34:13 GMT
The smaller displays are quite hard to read the full size version is far easier
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Post by superteacher on May 14, 2018 12:31:10 GMT
The smaller displays are quite hard to read the full size version is far easier I've often thought this too. I don't have amazing eyesight and the small ones are much more of a pain. I'd hate to think how a partially sighted person would cope. No use being brighter if the letters are too small to read! |
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Post by londoner on May 14, 2018 13:01:54 GMT
The smaller displays are quite hard to read the full size version is far easier I've often thought this too. I don't have amazing eyesight and the small ones are much more of a pain. I'd hate to think how a partially sighted person would cope. No use being brighter if the letters are too small to read! My eyes are sensitive to light. I cannot read these new dot matrix boards from too far away. Not that it matters. As we've discussed before, many display incorrect information. The EB board at Lane on Saturday showed a Picadilly Line train one minute away which then mysteriously vanished. Not sure what happened there. I suspect these issues will be corrected when the new signalling is in place. As a sidenote, I believe the EB came into operation Last week Tuesday 08/05 perhaps? |
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Post by goldenarrow on May 14, 2018 13:29:02 GMT
The WB suffers from the same ghost train syndrome except for most of the time it doesn't matter as the majority of trains go to Uxbridge anyway. I can't remember how the train describer at Rayners Lane cabin works when taking a Picc out of the sidings but I'd assume once the preceding train had cleared the EB platform, the Picc is entered and hence appears top of the board. This happened yesterday when the DMI showed the Met at the top with a Picc underneath with no time aswell as it came out of the sidings just after.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 22:30:41 GMT
There is no input from the signallers that has an effect on the describer boards, maybe the list we use for the Piccadilly's CTFS might influence the list and expected set numbers but there is no direct input per se
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Post by MoreToJack on May 14, 2018 23:34:25 GMT
There is no input from the signallers that has an effect on the describer boards, maybe the list we use for the Piccadilly's CTFS might influence the list and expected set numbers but there is no direct input per se If they are the same as they are elsewhere they use a clever interface between the timetable and Connect Radio data, which is why they're not always accurate. They can 'flip-flop' in the way that some of the legacy programme machines can but they can't account for additional trains, short trips or extensions - we await CBTC for that. |
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Post by crusty54 on May 15, 2018 4:52:23 GMT
The smaller displays are quite hard to read the full size version is far easier I've often thought this too. I don't have amazing eyesight and the small ones are much more of a pain. I'd hate to think how a partially sighted person would cope. No use being brighter if the letters are too small to read! The LUL Signage Manual contains a useful chart that specifies letter hight against viewing distance. Whoever specified and accepted the new screens does not appear to understand the importance of this. The old screens had a lot of frame and were somewhat unsightly but they could be read (as long as you weren't colour blind in the range that makes amber dots illegible) from a distance. |
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Post by superteacher on May 15, 2018 5:49:31 GMT
Has anybody actually complained to TFL? It would be interesting to hear their response.
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Post by North End on May 15, 2018 7:27:30 GMT
The smaller displays are quite hard to read the full size version is far easier Agreed - they’re horrible. I wonder if the reason may be that they are some kind of attempt to make people spread along the platform, as the larger indicators can be read from anywhere and therefore people can just remain where they arrive on the platform. |
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