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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 15, 2018 16:52:34 GMT
Just spotted this at Monument replacing the 1st/2nd generation DMI's. First switched on 8 December 2017, with message showing: “District and Circle lines westbound trains Bank station” |
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Post by goldenarrow on Jul 16, 2018 15:02:38 GMT
Must say I prefer these compared to the National Rail style DMI's which I think are grossly unsuited for stations such as Harrow-on-the-Hill or Rayners Lane especially when considering that they are only singular on the platform.
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Jul 16, 2018 22:03:24 GMT
God those are a nightmare to read.
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Post by knap on Jul 28, 2018 21:46:25 GMT
I noticed tonight (July 28) that describer boards have been fitted at Amersham, but were not turned on. They seem to be 3 line boards with a space for the clock below. I also spotted on at Chalfont & Latimer which seemed to be displaying the station name and time. I hope when live they provide meaningful details as the information available on phone apps for station departures for stations at the end of the Met can be sporadic with some showing Chiltern services and some not and not much detail for Amersham
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Post by howda62 on Aug 9, 2018 9:40:06 GMT
I've been away a few days but the describers at Amersham were active last night (August 8). For Platform 1 it showed the Aylesbury train I had just arrived on. For platform 2 it showed two trains being due, first "Terminates Here" and second "Check front of train". The terminating train wasn't listed for Platform 1 and it was still 10 minutes away, so there's some logic there that the Met train is not going to that platform. (The app I use lists Met trains as going to either Platform 1 or 2 right up until they arrive.) Over on southbound Platform 3 the describer was not showing any train due but a Met train was already pulling in from the siding. The board sprang into life identifying the train when it was about half way down the platform. Hopefully they'll be able to get info on Chiltern services before they reach LU territory, like they do for northbound services at Harrow.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 9, 2018 10:41:46 GMT
Barons Court all platforms new DMis switched on and working 26 July. Old ones still up and working as at today.
Ealing Broadway pfms. 8 and 9 new DMis up but not currently working.
Stepney Green EB supposedly next.
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Post by londoner on Aug 13, 2018 13:03:16 GMT
The information from the DMI at Rayners Lane for Piccadilly Line trains has been incorrect, every time I've used it. The information for the Metropolitan Line however has been correct when I have used it!
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 13, 2018 14:35:36 GMT
The information from the DMI at Rayners Lane for Piccadilly Line trains has been incorrect, every time I've used it. The information for the Metropolitan Line however has been correct when I have used it! Having spent some time at Rayners Lane, it looks to me like it's Piccadilly line services out of the sidings with through services originating from Uxbridge/Hillingdon/Ruislip generally on the money. When I waited yesterday for a Piccadilly line to come out of the sidings, it switched to the correct line when got halfway down the platform. Speaking of rogue line ambitions...  |
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Post by MoreToJack on Aug 13, 2018 22:57:24 GMT
The information from the DMI at Rayners Lane for Piccadilly Line trains has been incorrect, every time I've used it. The information for the Metropolitan Line however has been correct when I have used it! Having spent some time at Rayners Lane, it looks to me like it's Piccadilly line services out of the sidings with through services originating from Uxbridge/Hillingdon/Ruislip generally on the money. When I waited yesterday for a Piccadilly line to come out of the sidings, it switched to the correct line when got halfway down the platform. Speaking of rogue line ambitions... In the first instance (trains out of step when using the siding) this is not something that will be fixed until the new signalling comes in; because of how the TD information works, it cannot intersperse a train in a siding until that train has actually been routed out of the siding. This is the same issue as found at or following multi-platform stations, e.g. Baker Street 5 where information will not appear until the train has left Edgware Road. Even once the new signalling comes in it will only be as good as the timetable data (or, edited trip data) - trains running off a booked path may not necessarily be predicted in the right order until they have been given the route out of the siding. At Uxbridge it will be as simple has having had the wrong TD set-up in Rayner's Lane cabin. It would no doubt be corrected en route, although of course it is accepted that the wrong information is not useful. |
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 14, 2018 8:38:05 GMT
New displays at terminal stations seem to have been set up by somebody who doesn't understand what the public want.
This could be read as the first train out will be a Piccadilly line train from platform 3.
Those at Stanmore and Stratford are terrible.
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 15, 2018 7:42:50 GMT
***The space below will be updated soon.*** It's ~8hours since you posted the above. Do you intend to update the post or are you replicating what is displayed? |
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 15, 2018 8:07:44 GMT
***The space below will be updated soon.*** It's ~8hours since you posted the above. Do you intend to update the post or are you replicating what is displayed? Apologies, It appears that the image I wanted to post hasn't played ball, Il delete the original and post it up together. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 15, 2018 9:03:15 GMT
New displays at terminal stations seem to have been set up by somebody who doesn't understand what the public want. This could be read as the first train out will be a Piccadilly line train from platform 3. Those at Stanmore and Stratford are terrible. To be honest, most passengers don’t bat an eyelid at the DMI’s at Uxbridge as the gorgeous old light box indicator strategically located at the helm of the platforms does the job just fine. Hopefully resignalling post 4LM will facilitate some usefulness to these DMI’s (destination, calling points, Semi-fast or All stations etc.) I agree with your wider point that the mantra of standardisation has failed to appreciate the unique layout and information provision requirements at terminus stations. In a lot of cases the DMI’s at terminuses will scroll departures for other platforms or list the next three departures from that platform which in my opinion is unnecessary. Below is what I’d consider to be ample information at a three track terminus station for the DMI’s at platform level with the order of trains departing replicated on the boards but the the destination staying fixed until departures where in this case the ‘Ready to depart’ message would be activated by the ATO command as this is based on the Jubilee line at Stratford.  |
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Post by howda62 on Aug 22, 2018 11:04:06 GMT
I noticed yesterday evening that the describers are now also installed at Chorleywood (though not yet operational).
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 23, 2018 6:15:21 GMT
New small DMis up at Hornchurch BOTH, currently not working. No previous describers were provided.
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Post by DWS on Aug 23, 2018 8:31:55 GMT
New small DMis up at Hornchurch BOTH, currently not working. No previous describers were provided. A small DMi has been in the ticket hall for a number of years, shows Eastbound and Westbound trains. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 15, 2018 7:25:56 GMT
New small DMis (currently not working) up on platforms 3, 4, 5 at Upminster - the first on platforms here.
Also Upton Park has new small DMis (currently not working) up on both platforms, so the lightboxes will be going very soon.
Temple and Fulham Broadway have new small DMis up and working, directly replacing the previous equipment.
Next for enhancement are; Mansion House, Stepney Green and Earl’s Court.
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 15, 2018 8:35:05 GMT
Next for enhancement are; Mansion House, Stepney Green and Earl’s Court. Aren't the 'arrow boards' listed, I presume that it's the existing LED installations that will be upgraded. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 15, 2018 9:14:16 GMT
Aren't the 'arrow boards' listed, I presume that it's the existing LED installations that will be upgraded. Quite possible for the old ones to stay in place, not working after new ones are provided. |
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Sept 16, 2018 17:46:26 GMT
Aren't the 'arrow boards' listed, I presume that it's the existing LED installations that will be upgraded. Quite possible for the old ones to stay in place, not working after new ones are provided. Such a shame if they did switch them off they have a sort of charm to them that I like. But progress is progress, and I'd assume that the 4LM doesn't like the idea of setting of lights, instead of sending text (although they could create a small circuit program that interprets the data and then sets off an output that will turn the lights on, but I'm not the one designing these things) |
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Post by Red Dragon on Sept 16, 2018 18:37:31 GMT
Quite possible for the old ones to stay in place, not working after new ones are provided. Such a shame if they did switch them off they have a sort of charm to them that I like. But progress is progress, and I'd assume that the 4LM doesn't like the idea of setting of lights, instead of sending text (although they could create a small circuit program that interprets the data and then sets off an output that will turn the lights on, but I'm not the one designing these things) I'm no expert, but surely it would be something as simple as: "If field 1 = High Street Kensington, close circuit A" which would cause the light for the arrow pointing to HSK to illuminate? |
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Post by goldenarrow on Sept 23, 2018 21:31:18 GMT
In some slightly more reassuring news, four perspex displays from the platform light boxes at Harrow-on-the-Hill have been spotted disassembled at London's Transport Museum Acton Depot. On closer inspection they are in remarkably good condition so an effort has clearly been made to keep them in dry storage albeit not being common knowledge amongst those involved at the museum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 18:51:09 GMT
Internally they would of been re wired quite recently
One of the not so many signalling items which are 230v AC
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Post by coyote on Oct 9, 2018 19:37:01 GMT
Rewired and converted from fluorescent tubes to LED tubes within the last 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 19:20:45 GMT
Parsons Green gets its new signs this weekend
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 13:08:25 GMT
Are these also meant to come with platform announcements? District Line, the next train to Ealing Broadway will arrive in 2 mins, next station, Earl's Court. District Line, the train now approaching is to Ealing Broadway, please stand back from the platform edge.
They have replaced the voice at Holland Park with the Ellinor Hamilton ones.
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Post by howda62 on Mar 8, 2019 19:00:28 GMT
I notice the train describer on Amersham Platform 3 now shows estimated arrival times for southbound Chiltern trains whilst they are some distance away - 7 minutes away showing for a train when I was there. A useful and welcome update  . The info is also presented in the tube train mobile app I use, where it seems trains are listed from as far away as Stoke Mandeville (16 minutes), presumably the same applies for the platform describer. |
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Post by Colin on Mar 8, 2019 22:39:24 GMT
Upminster platforms, Hornchurch platforms and Ealing Broadway District platforms all now working.
Upminster's platform boards show destination of train in platform and which platform is departing first. At Ealing Broadway they show when trains are departing with good accuracy.
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 8, 2019 23:21:22 GMT
I passed through West Harrow today (travelling towards Uxbridge) and noticed that the opposite direction platform had a digital display showing 'Metropolitan Line' as a destination.
I suppose this is progress... although perhaps passengers would prefer a destination station name?
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Post by A60stock on Mar 9, 2019 10:42:28 GMT
Haven't the west Harrow ones been showing metropolitan line (eastbound one) for a while now?
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. The info is also presented in the tube train mobile app I use, where it seems trains are listed from as far away as Stoke Mandeville (16 minutes), presumably the same applies for the platform describer.
